List of 'years in television'
This is all from a very Americo-centric perpective. Mintguy
- So add some that isn't -- Zoe
- That I've done Zoe, with regard to the early days and Baird. But many of the 'highlights' of a particular year are completely meaningless to a readership audience outside of the US. e.g. First televised Presidential election coverage, should be First televised United States Presidential election coverage etc.. Mintguy
- Not all of it. Most of it is though. I only know American TV, because I don't get TV from other countries other than the BBC. Hopefully, I'm not going to be the only one writing these articles. - Jazz77
- I see that at least one other person is already adding some info.. -Jazz77
If pages are only going to list television of one country, IMO they should be renamed something like "USA Television in 1995". What do people think of moving them? Putting the pages in the proper category might turn them from very poor and biased pages into something that some folks could find usefull. -- Infrogmation
- My intent was for them to be for all countries, which is why I included a lot of information about the BBC and other non-US countries. Add in more info about other countries.. as I'm trying to do. I'd rather do that than go through and edit out all of the non-US stuff and make them just about one country. -Jazz77
- PS: they're "very poor and biased" only because I've been nearly alone in trying to add info to these pages. Add is some other non-US information. I've been adding as much as I can find, but being in the US I know very little about non-US television. Please help. Don't destroy the articles and turn them into US-specific articles. That's not what they were created to be. -Jazz77
- Well, if you're just trying to contribute USA content to international articles, perhaps the categories should say things like "Hit Television Shows in the USA" and "Other Popular USA Television Shows". I'm certainly not trying to "destroy" anything, I'm trying to think how they could become more usefull based on what is there now. -- Infrogmation
- But that's just it. I'm not just contributing USA content. I've added almost 100% of what is there.. there is a hell of a lot of info about the BBC, German TV, etc.. You're ignoring that stuff. As I've stated before, it's hard because since I'm in the US, its a million times easier for me to find info on US television than it is to find anything for international television, but I'm trying as hard as I can. I could use help. The articles could be more useful if some non-US contributors added in more international information. -Jazz77
- Okay. I'm sorry, but of the first dozen pages I looked at, it seemed that at least 3/4 of them were all USA stuff. Again, if you make a list of hit USA tv shows, why not label it as such? That will leave room for others to add hit tv shows for countries they know about. (Sorry I don't have much first hand knowledge of other countries tv to add; if I could remember more than a couple of shows from Guatemala and Mexico I'd list them, but I was pretty much only aware of them because I had friends who watched them and I really don't know how popular they were.) Cheers, Infrogmation
- I never set out to make a list of "popular US television shows". The problem I have is that I'm adding a lot of shows by memory. Not necessarily shows that I liked or watched, but just what sticks out as being popular at the time. Other than a handful (Dr Who, Monty Python, etc) I can't remember many popular non-US television shows. I know they exist, but being American, it's not really something I can just open up a magazine and read about (Or turn on the TV and see whats on.. I do get the BBC, but I don't "get" the BBC..) I've been searching the net for lists of popular non-US shows, but the problem I have there is that every page that lists tv shows claims that they're *all* popular. I have no intention of including every show that ever aired in the universe, so I really need help narrowing it down to the truly popular international shows. I'm adding in some shows from the British sitcom article right now.. I've actually heard of a couple of them, so I assume they were big. -Jazz77
Thanks to , I found this possibly usefull site: http://dir.yahoo.com/News_and_Media/Television/By_Region/Countries/ No doubt google can find stuff about television for at least most English speaking countries. Cheers, -- Infrogmation
Why is it the responsibility of the person who created this article to be forced to "internationalize" the article? What's stopping you, or anybody else, from adding more information? You make it sound like it's a sin that Americans would write about what they know -- American subjects. Yes, this is an international site, but why is it the responsiblity of the Americans to make it that way? -- Zoe
- 1)Nothing has been stopping me from adding more info, which I have been doing. 2)If there are long lists of USA only information, I'd just like some acknowledgement that it is USA information (eg, a minor modification of a header to say something like "Hit Shows in the USA" rather than presenting it as if that's all that was going on in television anyhere in the world. IMO such a minor change of wording would improve the articles even without any additional information added. That is most certainly not the same thing as me saying people in the USA shouldn't write about USA subjects, but rather that while they are writing them they at least occasionally acknowledge that what they are writing about is specifically about the USA. See the distinction? -- Infrogmation
- The problem with that is that if I were to label them "Hit shows of the USA", it would be very unlikely that anyone would add non-US TV shows to the list. By leaving it unspecific, I was hoping to encourage others to join in and add their own information. I think it would be easier for a non-US visitor to add an international show or two than it would be to go through and rename all of the articles "xxxx in American Television".
- Thanks for the help by the way.. I see that you've been adding quite a bit. I haven't been able to find dates for some of that info. -Jazz77
The problem with these pages is that because they are so dominated by US programmes I feel reluctant to add British content. I'm for stating up pages for particular nations and getting around these Americo-centric pages. Mintguy 17:42 22 May 2003 (UTC)
Why is this List of 'years in television'? It should be List of years in television. Unless there are major objections, I am going to change it. Kingturtle 03:59, 1 Nov 2003 (UTC)
- Well, i changed it. i got an error message when i did it....it read like this..."A database query syntax error has occurred. The last attempted database query was: "SELECT wl_user FROM watchlist WHERE wl_namespace=0 AND wl_title='List_of_'years_in_television" from within function "". MySQL returned error "1064: You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'years_in_television' at line 2". "
- But everything seemed to work out ok. i dunno. Kingturtle 06:35, 12 Nov 2003 (UTC)
This page seems to be upside-down when compared to other timelines on BambooWeb... —Mulad 07:05, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)
